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Logan,UT,USA

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Dec 15, 2009

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PRs after age 40:

 

5k     15:15  Running of the Leopards.

8k      22:21  Alta Death Dash

10k   33:02    Des News

Half Marathon      1:10  Timp Half

Marathon        2:32    Ogden

First solo R2R2R Bass Trails Grand Canyon 

First R2R2R Grand Canyon Toroweap Overlook

 

Short-Term Running Goals:

Not be fat all year

Long-Term Running Goals:

Smell the dirt, feel the mountain, taste the wind.

Personal:

 

"Our legs are tight, our feet are flying, and we are gliding over the roll of the land. The sun is up, the air is fresh, the stone is old, and we are free and at peace. The clock has stopped because another time has taken over." C. Bowden

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Up early in New York for a long run from La Guardia through the old World's Fair park to Central Park and back.  Nice day and a sweet run.  Pretty sore from the downhill sections of the Des News 10k yesterday.

I've been thinking a lot lately about running, mostly in the sense of why it brings so much into my life and what drives all of us to do it.  I'm seriously competetive, to a fault at times, but love the trail running and distance time just as much as running a good race.  Most days it seems like I enjoy the people aspect of it all more than anything else.  It's on my mind a bit more the past week for several reasons.  First, it really helps when a sponsor pays your races and starts paying for the time you sacrifice to run some of these things.  Inevitably it changes the reasons that you run for, and when you are good, but not great (like I am), it feels too much like self promoting after a while and starts winding down the basic fun of it all.  There is a lot out there for good runners over 40 who can compete at that age, but there are also a lot of seriously fast guys over 40 who wouldn't touch an endorsement or sponsor.  There is a huge part of me that admires that.  Probably because I understand why they run.  Same reasons why I won't drop a trail run off the day before a marathon.  It's part of my life.

Anyways, this come up for me twice this weekend.  I ran the 10k course backwards Monday after the race with Dane Raushenberg of "See Dane Run", 52 marathons in 52 weeks guy.  I have got to know him through a few marathons and on FB.  Link here for anyone who doesn't know him:   danerunsalot.blogspot.com   I really like him and have a good time spending time with anybody who puts their life into this sport.  Good stories.  I also however, have some endurance friends that detest this guy.  They believe he is all about self promotion, cheats on times, and is just full of himself.  Check this link from a guy that I know:  daneraushengergcheats.blogspot.com.  It's interesting that we love a sport so much but work so hard at drawing the line at what's acceptable for "recognition".  It's OK for a guy to devote his entire life to a single Olympic marathon time, for years of preparation, but absolutely not for a guy to try and make a living out of running when he is at best just above average in speed.  Not taking any sides here, just something on my mind today.  The arguement at the awards desk at Draper days over money regarding the college runners was kind of related.  Who would think that putting one foot in front of the other could be something folks could make complicated?

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From steve ash on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 13:00:38 from 174.52.97.157

It's called pride Steve. Simple as that..

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 14:20:42 from 98.202.141.17

Part of it with Dane might be envy as well. For example, I'm faster than Dane, I have been running a lot longer than him, I'll probably be running long after he moves on to something else, I know way more about the sport than he does, I've spent countless thousands of hours coaching other runners, and I have yet to make any money off of the sport.

I'll probably regret this post, but that's what I think every time I see him.

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 15:25:06 from 98.202.141.17

The only reason that I mentioned not doing the 12 mile trail run is because YOU said that you were thinking about how to train for the race next year. From a purely training standpoint, it makes little sense to put systematic thought and effort into a training plan geared towards a specific race and then to risk that race by overtraining the day before.

If an Olympic marathoner went out and ran a 12 mile trail run the day before the race, you would have to conclude that he wasn't very serious about racing well the next day.

From Steve on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:38:48 from 72.43.148.83

Steve, good to hear from you again! I've missed you around this season.

Rob, that makes sense. It's kind of annoying. But the guys gotta make a living right? I'm still thinking about this one.

I understood your point on the training run. I'm not even close to an olympian though, and I got passed by a girl. I'm training for the TOU half and Twin. Not that stuck on individual races this year until then.

From Rob Murphy on Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:25:20 from 98.202.141.17

I'm not saying I'm right to think of Dane that way. Those are just the thoughts I have whenever I see him.

I get you. Also, you are good enough to train through local races and still destroy the local Masters competition.

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